Basil Posted May 23, 2020 Report Share Posted May 23, 2020 10 minutes ago, Jimmeeh said: Would have been the Masters Historic at Brands this weekend... Found this earlier. Think it's some of the best onboard I've ever seen. https://youtu.be/lbBjz6mXKjM *Can't get it to embed for some reason. That's one of Uncle @Superdunc 's dead ahead on the grid isn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superdunc Posted May 23, 2020 Report Share Posted May 23, 2020 17 minutes ago, Basil said: That's one of Uncle @Superdunc 's dead ahead on the grid isn't it? That's Jamie Constable's Tyrrell 012 in front and Greg Thornton's Lotus on pole. Done a bit with Jamie, but not on that car. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil Posted May 24, 2020 Report Share Posted May 24, 2020 3 hours ago, Superdunc said: That's Jamie Constable's Tyrrell 012 in front and Greg Thornton's Lotus on pole. Done a bit with Jamie, but not on that car. The Williams was one of yours no? I think that's an FW07 that's alongside? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superdunc Posted May 24, 2020 Report Share Posted May 24, 2020 7 hours ago, Basil said: The Williams was one of yours no? I think that's an FW07 that's alongside? No that's Mike Cantelon. That car is a new build built up by Williams a coulpe of years ago from an unused chassis. Again I've worked on Mikes cars but not that one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trident_special Posted June 2, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2020 Don't mind me, just making my way through. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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trident_special Posted June 4, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2020 Fuck yeah. The Brocky lap gets shown a lot and it was spectacular, but this was a cut above. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bigspud Posted June 8, 2020 Report Share Posted June 8, 2020 On 6/3/2020 at 6:33 PM, Basil said: Excellent - ta I've been binge listening to the Chris Harris Collecting Cars podcasts. The Nicky Grist one is particularly good Downloads here https://collectingcars.com/podcasts/ They're all worth a listen 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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trident_special Posted June 11, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 11, 2020 Hell yes. (Apologies for the fucking terrible music.) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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IforB Posted July 31, 2020 Report Share Posted July 31, 2020 On 6/5/2020 at 3:05 AM, Basil said: The noise that Matra makes is spine-tingling! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLRS Posted July 31, 2020 Report Share Posted July 31, 2020 8 hours ago, IforB said: The noise that Matra makes is spine-tingling! You might like this as well: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlatTel Posted August 4, 2020 Report Share Posted August 4, 2020 Wow, just wow GM with virtually no corporate influences on his design process..... 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaycee Posted August 4, 2020 Report Share Posted August 4, 2020 4 hours ago, FlatTel said: Wow, just wow GM with virtually no corporate influences on his design process..... Gordon Murray, still a hero. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superdunc Posted August 6, 2020 Report Share Posted August 6, 2020 On 8/4/2020 at 8:06 PM, FlatTel said: Wow, just wow GM with virtually no corporate influences on his design process..... Brilliant. Some really great insight there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil Posted August 7, 2020 Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 On 8/4/2020 at 8:06 PM, FlatTel said: Wow, just wow GM with virtually no corporate influences on his design process..... It's very clever, I'm glad such things exist and a great insight into packaging and no committee bollocks and I agree with a lot of his peeves; looks great from most angles but I don't like the rear (not that I'm in the market) it's not even the fan (although I wish he could've hidden it) it's more the fake mesh on the rear, seems a shame. Also I'm glad it's not dripping with exposed carbon, I'm sure it's better than a McLaren F1 but all those little niggles he cites on the McLaren are I think partly why it's still a stunning car; it's not quite perfect (for GM) but it's the flaws that gives it a human quality, a soul (I'm sounding like Clarkson) I don't think this will age as well as the F1 ICBVW Interesting times although this isn't really a competitor, Mercedes Project One starts production later this year, Valkyrie in the pipe, The T.50, and others I forget (one last huzzah before the milk floats) I do like the Project ONE (apart from the daft graphics down the sides, it reminds me of a shrunken 911 GT1. Incidentally while they were talking advances in materials etc I was wondering @sev say someone absolutely shit-gented an F1 into a million parts and the owner said look put all the components onto a chassis made with the latest materials would you end up with a crap F1 or a better one? I think I know the answer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bram43 Posted August 7, 2020 Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 @sev have you applied for a job with Murray, yet...I’m willing to put in a good word for you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil Posted August 7, 2020 Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 9 minutes ago, Bram43 said: @sev have you applied for a job with Murray, yet...I’m willing to put in a good word for you I've been watching his MK1 Escort being built; he certainly knows what he wants. I don't know if he'd drive me mad or be an utter joy There's a lot of knowledge in that head I hope has been passed along. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLRS Posted August 8, 2020 Report Share Posted August 8, 2020 (edited) @sev sounds like a proper bloke.. not sure about the ego thing, taking that good care of other people..! Oh yes, the car.. not too keen on the look of it. Dislike the fan muchly. Lovely technical tour the force though.. Edited August 8, 2020 by TLRS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil Posted August 8, 2020 Report Share Posted August 8, 2020 1 hour ago, sev said: he is. The ego comes out in a manner where he's not ashamed to pronounce his greatness - he has a supreme confidence in his conviction, ideas and abilities - he believes utterly in brand himself. it's not a destructive or obnoxious ego like some, but more a knowing of what he wants and that's the way its going to be. Adrian Newey was the same, as was John Barnard. You could argue or offer an opinion, but you'd better be bloody right and know your shit, especially with Barnard as he'd properly have you in the metaphorical dock corss examining your suggestion as to why it would be better than what he wanted. - but if you were right, he would cave in. But they're all men who learn't by doing and fucking up and doing again, and not one set of jet washed teeth or primarni suits to be seen. Like bernie ecclescake, and Ron Dennis and all that old school - he always looks after his closest who have been with him from day one. The t50 I can only imagine was something he approached with great relish and caution at the same time. he resisted for years against calls to "re-do" the F1, for him he was ever only going to touch it if everything was right, and that's taken what, nearly thirty years since it's first genesis as a 'what if...' in that airport lounge back in '91 It was interesting that as soon as he got wind McLaren were planning another 3 seater and what most were assuming would be a new F1 (what would later become The Speedtail) he put the brakes on the T.50 project then as soon as Woking released images etc of it he was okay lads we're back on. He almost sounded disappointed that the three seat Mclaren project wasn't what most were expecting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil Posted August 8, 2020 Report Share Posted August 8, 2020 10 minutes ago, sev said: now thats a story in itself... I think I could take a stab, it's probably similar story to the reason Mclaren release too many new models too often. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLRS Posted August 8, 2020 Report Share Posted August 8, 2020 Sounds like a brand testing the strength of their image. Which gives a lot of good, modern machinery a very second rate feeling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil Posted August 8, 2020 Report Share Posted August 8, 2020 6 minutes ago, TLRS said: Sounds like a brand testing the strength of their image. Which gives a lot of good, modern machinery a very second rate feeling. Mclaren automotive was/is a success story, especially growth wise it just appears certain people want to act like they have a Ferrari heritage release any old product frequently and people will buy due to badge. Unfortunately with certain models it's turning Mclarens into expensive Lotus. The LT and limited run cars bar minor niggles all seem to have proper QC but the other stuff seems hit and miss, they've few really good dealers and far too much new old stock sitting around. They wanted to be the "Apple" of the supercar world but is biting them in the arse. The 720 is bonkers and radically different to their rivals but rather than concentrate on that model they seem to be rushed out the door for the new flavour of the month which understandably leads to problems, such a radical thing was always going to have niggles but some of it seems self inflicted, the age old Mclaren-ism i.e well we could use this longstanding mass specialist manufacturer of switch guts/actuators or we can build one ourselves, we have no time to reliability test and is three times the cost. There are MC-12's about for example that offer really stupid levels of performance for relatively low outlay that have better QC than some of the new suff, partly I'd suggest because it wasn't rushed (especially given cost new) especially if you buy a later one with an extensive warranty, there's a company out there I think it's Thorney or something I think they're a bit like Hartge is to BMW. Sorry I've veered off track. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Superdunc Posted August 8, 2020 Report Share Posted August 8, 2020 Mclaren have grown fast, it inevitable there will be some issues, they've done well really, really well. I thought the first mass produced model, the Mp4 12? was a dud though, some real obvoius cock ups in its design. Back to the T50. presumably they are subbying out all the manufacturing? Who's doing the tubs and composite stuff. GTR down in Bognor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil Posted August 8, 2020 Report Share Posted August 8, 2020 42 minutes ago, Superdunc said: Mclaren have grown fast, it inevitable there will be some issues, they've done well really, really well. I thought the first mass produced model, the Mp4 12? was a dud though, some real obvoius cock ups in its design. Back to the T50. presumably they are subbying out all the manufacturing? Who's doing the tubs and composite stuff. GTR down in Bognor? I should know this as I'm sure he did say, I've watched the Harry's vid, Carfection vid and the Top Gear vid (the influencer ones can fuck off) when I get a spare hour I'll tell you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superdunc Posted August 8, 2020 Report Share Posted August 8, 2020 41 minutes ago, Basil said: I should know this as I'm sure he did say, I've watched the Harry's vid, Carfection vid and the Top Gear vid (the influencer ones can fuck off) when I get a spare hour I'll tell you The Chris Harris Pod cast with GM is really worth a listen too. It's off the back of the launch of the T50, but most of it is about Murry's career. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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