zxrob Posted April 24 Report Share Posted April 24 Hi all. I am looking at buying a 2006 Z1000, however, the owner, although looks genuine, has only got one ignition key, no spare and no red key. What are the possible issues with having no red key, do you need it to code any new keys or can you get around it. Cheers Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobo Posted April 24 Report Share Posted April 24 From what I am led to believe you will need it to code any new keys to the KISS system on Kawasakis - that's what the dealer told me when I picked up my bike new, under strict orders NOT to lose the red key, warnings of replacement ECU/lockset etc. But that was back in 2006 and things may have changed since then and a dealer may be able to get one for you...... don't quote me on that though. I'm not sure if KISS was used in all markets so if the bike is an import it may not have it and you may not need the red key, you can tell if the bike has KISS fitted if the ignition looks like this:- But there may be a way round it...... https://www.carmoelectronics.co.uk/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=493_1351_1355_1360&zenid=93mh1kuht6k2hvt7s0nm8apn80 Never used them so not sure what they are like to deal with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderbolt Posted April 24 Report Share Posted April 24 4 minutes ago, Lobo said: From what I am led to believe you will need it to code any new keys to the KISS system on Kawasakis - that's what the dealer told me when I picked up my bike new, under strict orders NOT to lose the red key, warnings of replacement ECU/lockset etc. But that was back in 2006 and things may have changed since then and a dealer may be able to get one for you...... don't quote me on that though. I'm not sure if KISS was used in all markets so if the bike is an import it may not have it and you may not need the red key, you can tell if the bike has KISS fitted if the ignition looks like this:- But there may be a way round it...... https://www.carmoelectronics.co.uk/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=493_1351_1355_1360&zenid=93mh1kuht6k2hvt7s0nm8apn80 Never used them so not sure what they are like to deal with. @jaycee will know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zxrob Posted April 24 Author Report Share Posted April 24 8 minutes ago, Lobo said: From what I am led to believe you will need it to code any new keys to the KISS system on Kawasakis - that's what the dealer told me when I picked up my bike new, under strict orders NOT to lose the red key, warnings of replacement ECU/lockset etc. But that was back in 2006 and things may have changed since then and a dealer may be able to get one for you...... don't quote me on that though. I'm not sure if KISS was used in all markets so if the bike is an import it may not have it and you may not need the red key, you can tell if the bike has KISS fitted if the ignition looks like this:- But there may be a way round it...... https://www.carmoelectronics.co.uk/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=493_1351_1355_1360&zenid=93mh1kuht6k2hvt7s0nm8apn80 Never used them so not sure what they are like to deal with. I have a 2005 zx6r that has KISS, I have the red key for that, I was wandering, with todays technology if a new key could be cloned of an existing key and/or the bikes ECU, I have looked around and found somewhere that can do it without the red key. Cheers Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaycee Posted April 24 Report Share Posted April 24 1 hour ago, Thunderbolt said: @jaycee will know I do not actually, but I suspect that red key is rather important. I know some folk that will know, however. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaycee Posted April 24 Report Share Posted April 24 1 hour ago, zxrob said: Hi all. I am looking at buying a 2006 Z1000, however, the owner, although looks genuine, has only got one ignition key, no spare and no red key. What are the possible issues with having no red key, do you need it to code any new keys or can you get around it. Cheers Rob I've just asked a Kawasaki tech. The red is is crucial for coding a replacement key. Otherwise it's new ECU and new keys time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zxrob Posted April 24 Author Report Share Posted April 24 (edited) 1 hour ago, jaycee said: I've just asked a Kawasaki tech. The red is is crucial for coding a replacement key. Otherwise it's new ECU and new keys time. I spoke to a Kawasaki tech this morning and he didnt know😐 I spoke to a company just, they can code a new key off an existing working one, and code a new red key off the ECU. Cheers Rob Edited April 24 by zxrob 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobo Posted April 24 Report Share Posted April 24 3 hours ago, Thunderbolt said: @jaycee will know I forgot where he used to work 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaycee Posted April 24 Report Share Posted April 24 57 minutes ago, Lobo said: I forgot where he used to work For about ten minutes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobo Posted April 24 Report Share Posted April 24 It was at least half an hour 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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