weeksy Posted August 4, 2020 Report Share Posted August 4, 2020 My XSR900 currently has 2020-07-16_06-22-59 by Steve Weeks, on Flickr That exhaust. It's the one from the later MT-09. The reason is, the headers on the standard XSR90 are coated black and it shows rust/corrosion/browning really quickly. Mine only had 250 miles on it when i bought it, but they were fairly brown in places. So the MT-09 is non-painted, so i bought a set for £55 and that was that. 2020-06-25_06-44-01 by Steve Weeks, on Flickr 2020-06-20_04-11-11 by Steve Weeks, on Flickr That set is the standard XSR900 which i must admit, i prefer the looks of. So i painted the XSR headers, which actually came out really nice. But others on forums have said it won't last more than 10 mins... 2020-07-24_07-00-32 by Steve Weeks, on Flickr So i've not even bothered fitting it yet. I've asked a few places about ceramic coating the exhuasts and they're ranging from £300-500 all in... Which is a LOT... So i don't really know. I can get a bloody used Akrapovic for that money... (but i'm not as sold on the looks). Any thoughts and options appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter187 Posted August 4, 2020 Report Share Posted August 4, 2020 If you used heatproof paint it should last a fair while really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeksy Posted August 4, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2020 1 minute ago, peter187 said: If you used heatproof paint it should last a fair while really. It was yeah.... may actually throw it on today and see then.. i gave it a good 4-5 coats with drying time in between each coating. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobo Posted August 4, 2020 Report Share Posted August 4, 2020 Options....... 1 - Buy the Akra and accept the looks knowing the build quality will last 2 - pay for the ceramic coating knowing you like the looks and the coating will last 3 - paint the current system with heatproof paint but accept that you may have to remove the system from time to time to repaint (every year or so depending on use) Depends on whether you want to spend the money on one hit and not have to bother about it anymore or are willing to spend less but may have to spend time keeping on top of the condition. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marvin Posted August 4, 2020 Report Share Posted August 4, 2020 1 minute ago, weeksy said: It was yeah.... may actually throw it on today and see then.. i gave it a good 4-5 coats with drying time in between each coating. If you use the bike in the wet regularly it's more likely that the black painted pipes will show quicker wear and browning again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeksy Posted August 4, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2020 Well as we know, using in the wet isn't an issue, it's VERY much the exception i'd be caught in the rain. Stripping and doing it once a year again, i can easily live with that, doing it every 2 weeks, i can't. The Akra, sure it's lovely quality and i could resell for the same money in whatever time, but it's a chunk of change to shell out that's for sure. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marvin Posted August 4, 2020 Report Share Posted August 4, 2020 (edited) 52 minutes ago, weeksy said: Well as we know, using in the wet isn't an issue, it's VERY much the exception i'd be caught in the rain. Stripping and doing it once a year again, i can easily live with that, doing it every 2 weeks, i can't. The Akra, sure it's lovely quality and i could resell for the same money in whatever time, but it's a chunk of change to shell out that's for sure. Think I said buy the Akra or similar when you first bought the bike. Still the best option particularly if you are keeping the bike awhile. Two of my SDRs have the full Akra system and set up. Each cost £1800 to do. About to get the third one done too. No regrets as bang for buck it's the best mod done. Makes the bikes look and feel so much better. Edited August 4, 2020 by marvin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeksy Posted August 4, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2020 (edited) 19 minutes ago, marvin said: Think I said buy the Akra or similar when you first bought the bike. Still the best option particularly if you are keeping the bike awhile. Two of my SDRs have the full Akra system and set up. Each cost £1800 to do. About to get the third one done too. No regrets as bang for buck it's the best mod done. Makes the bikes look and feel so much better. I'm not arguing, my wallet is Anyway, the black painted one is fitted now. We'll see how we get on with it later today. 2020-08-04_08-40-38 by Steve Weeks, on Flickr Edited August 4, 2020 by weeksy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marvin Posted August 4, 2020 Report Share Posted August 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, weeksy said: I'm not arguing, my wallet is Anyway, the black painted one is fitted now. We'll see how we get on with it later today. Consider it a temporary investment. You will get the money back no problem. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeksy Posted August 4, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2020 Well we got the answer to "how long will the paint last" about 13s is the answer and it started bubbling like a crazy thing and is proper fucked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricey3 Posted August 4, 2020 Report Share Posted August 4, 2020 i had my exhaust/headers ceramic coated from Maldon Shotblasting and Powdercoating. They were very good on price £180 all in. Ask them for a quote. The finish was perfect. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeksy Posted August 4, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2020 2020-08-04_09-50-21 by Steve Weeks, on Flickr 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOGG Posted August 4, 2020 Report Share Posted August 4, 2020 26 minutes ago, ricey3 said: i had my exhaust/headers ceramic coated from Maldon Shotblasting and Powdercoating. They were very good on price £180 all in. Ask them for a quote. The finish was perfect. I could do a relay to Maldon for you also Steve, it's very cl9se to me 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricey3 Posted August 4, 2020 Report Share Posted August 4, 2020 17 minutes ago, weeksy said: 2020-08-04_09-50-21 by Steve Weeks, on Flickr Come on. its clear to see what the issue is....you've been spraying them with Mr Sheen 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOGG Posted August 4, 2020 Report Share Posted August 4, 2020 Try this paint https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/224076565147 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeksy Posted August 4, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2020 11 minutes ago, HOGG said: Try this paint https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/224076565147 that's only 40deg, this stuff was supposed to be 800+. Either way, i've moved on from the paint. It's either full on ceramic coating, or a replacement exhaust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobo Posted August 4, 2020 Report Share Posted August 4, 2020 What did you use to clean the pipes with prior to painting ? Did you get it all cleaned off before painting ? Could it be a reaction to that if it wasn't all cleaned off rather than the paint ? If you're happy with the looks of the exhaust then get a few quotes for ceramic coating, it'll last (longer than your paint did) and you won't have itchy teeth worrying about the looks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo200500 Posted August 4, 2020 Report Share Posted August 4, 2020 I had the local powdercoaters do the swarbricks on the Pepsi 500 in High Temp powdercoat. It seemed to last ok. The ZZR 1400 headers were done by Zircotech, in their cheapest matt Black coating. That has lasted very well, Trackdays and Touring. Worth the cost for something that gets very hot! It was about £280, 3 years ago, and is still exactly the same as the day it was fitted! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderbolt Posted August 4, 2020 Report Share Posted August 4, 2020 (edited) Take the pipes off. Drive to Twenty Twenty Customs, leave the exhaust. Pick it up a few days later. sorted and two good rides to the shire Edited August 4, 2020 by Thunderbolt Link added 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tootall Posted August 4, 2020 Report Share Posted August 4, 2020 2 hours ago, weeksy said: 2020-08-04_09-50-21 by Steve Weeks, on Flickr Jesus, what paint did you use and what prep did you do? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeksy Posted August 6, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2020 On 8/4/2020 at 12:31 PM, tootall said: Jesus, what paint did you use and what prep did you do? Well it appears, not enough prep and shit paint... or something similar But i tried and failed... hey, it's OK, it cost me buttons to try and i didn't think it was going to work anyway. I'm still not sure how i'm going to play this now though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tootall Posted August 6, 2020 Report Share Posted August 6, 2020 Reckon it's 99% the prep tbh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeksy Posted August 6, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, tootall said: Reckon it's 99% the prep tbh That's entirely possible yes... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evilchicken0 Posted August 6, 2020 Report Share Posted August 6, 2020 It helps if you cure the paint slowly. If you run the engine up to temp straight away the will probably bubble. You need to be more gradual building up the heat over 4 or 5 cycles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeksy Posted August 6, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2020 30 minutes ago, Evilchicken0 said: It helps if you cure the paint slowly. If you run the engine up to temp straight away the will probably bubble. You need to be more gradual building up the heat over 4 or 5 cycles. i totally get you, but i ran the bike for less than 10s... that's clearly not up to temp, it was honestly no more than say 15s... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeksy Posted August 6, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2020 My decision currently sits between. 1. blast them and re-paint at home 2. CTC Coatings in Maldon @ £250 3. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/YAMAHA-XSR-900-2016-TO-2018-FULL-SYSTEM-EXHAUST-LEOVINCE-GP-DUALS-TRACK-ONLY/362586006561?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649 The only thing about that Leo Vince system is that the mounting bracket system is a bit weird for the cans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenny Pryde Posted August 6, 2020 Report Share Posted August 6, 2020 If you decide to blast them, be very careful with your choice of abrasive. Some pipes have a protective plating which you will want to retain. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeksy Posted August 6, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2020 3 minutes ago, Jenny Pryde said: If you decide to blast them, be very careful with your choice of abrasive. Some pipes have a protective plating which you will want to retain. when i meant 'at home' that was someone else doing the blasting of course, not me.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOGG Posted August 6, 2020 Report Share Posted August 6, 2020 Option 2 I'd say is the best ALL around solution Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeksy Posted August 6, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2020 Just now, HOGG said: Option 2 I'd say is the best ALL around solution I'm currently in discussion too Tootall regarding blasting and painting. My concern though is kinda along the lines of what Jenny Pryde said above. This is how the standard headers looked with <300 miles on them... which implies they're either untreated or not treated correctly. 2020-06-25_06-44-01 by Steve Weeks, on Flickr So if i get them blasted and painted then i end up in exactly the same position because the paint isn't anti-corrosive as such ? The Ceramic coating from CTC takes care of that itself. https://ctc-powder-coating.co.uk/high-performance-ceramic-coatings/ I'm not against the option of the full system, but i do worry about the noise.. I'm not the sort of rider who likes or wants epic noise and i've heard a few MT09s that are just bonkers noisy. But arguably i would like something a bit 'more' than the standard when it comes to noise. But that adds on about £100 if going for the Leo Vince and takes it to £700. All in all, i'm in a bit of a quandry. Luckily, i quite like the MT-09 system that's on and it brings no issues at all with corrosion or paint on the headers.... So i've got a solution currenty.... But.... i'm not madly in love with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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