MonkeyJim Posted July 17, 2020 Report Share Posted July 17, 2020 My original connectors have gone, cut off by Swiss Tony when the R&G tail tidy and shitehawk aftermarket indicators were fitted. I want to restore the original connector blocks. From what I know, it's a 4-pin 2-row square-ish connector, either white or grey - parts 1 and 2 in the picture.I think it could be a Molex (?) connector but I'm not sure exactly and can't really find it on this? https://www.ktm-parts.com/pdf/TechBull/SpareConnectors.pdf Anybody got any suggestions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trackdaybob Posted July 17, 2020 Report Share Posted July 17, 2020 (edited) Maybe not exactly what you are looking for but I'm using these. Handy to have in the toolbox. Edited July 17, 2020 by trackdaybob pic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swarf Posted July 17, 2020 Report Share Posted July 17, 2020 Is it not fr on that data sheet? Looks similar to the connectors on part 7 here. https://www.bikebandit.com/oem-parts/2014-ktm-1190-rc8-r-white/o/m156439#sch855754 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyJim Posted July 17, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2020 44 minutes ago, trackdaybob said: Maybe not exactly what you are looking for but I'm using these. Handy to have in the toolbox. Thanks Bobby but I'm looking for the exact one, not any 4 pin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyJim Posted July 17, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2020 17 minutes ago, Swarf said: Is it not fr on that data sheet? Looks similar to the connectors on part 7 here. https://www.bikebandit.com/oem-parts/2014-ktm-1190-rc8-r-white/o/m156439#sch855754 it could be. It's not very clear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trackdaybob Posted July 17, 2020 Report Share Posted July 17, 2020 4 minutes ago, MonkeyJim said: Thanks Bobby but I'm looking for the exact one, not any 4 pin No worries, I did kinda think that. How very Practical Sportsbikes of you. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyJim Posted July 17, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2020 13 minutes ago, trackdaybob said: No worries, I did kinda think that. How very Practical Sportsbikes of you. yeah well the reason being, I might need to connect in some resistors to correct the flash rate on the new indicators. KTM do a part for this very purpose and it uses the stock connectors. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nampus Posted July 17, 2020 Report Share Posted July 17, 2020 34 minutes ago, MonkeyJim said: it could be. It's not very clear That is definitely it. Problem is, that's only one half of the connector. The other half is probably part of the main loom which is about 10 times the cost of that little subloom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyJim Posted July 17, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2020 1 minute ago, nampus said: That is definitely it. Problem is, that's only one half of the connector. The other half is probably part of the main loom which is about 10 times the cost of that little subloom. Hi, sorry yes it is definitely it. What I meant above was, that's not very clear what type of connector it is. the sub-loom for the indicators & no.plate light is £27. I've already got the loom, it's inside the stock whale-tail I've just put back on, mine is just minus the end connector. The rear part of the main loom that it connects to is just £298. hence why I want to try and identify the connector and buy them separately. I spoke to the ever-helpful Trevor Pope KTM and they said they can get any of the connectors, but they can't help tell me which is which, I have to identify them in the KTM connector list which they freely admitted was not very much good at identifying them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nampus Posted July 17, 2020 Report Share Posted July 17, 2020 I've got that little subloom from my 990 Superduke somewhere. Looks the same, I'll have a dig and see if I can find it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nampus Posted July 17, 2020 Report Share Posted July 17, 2020 Found it, partnumber is slightly different, so I'm not 100% sure it will be the same connector. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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nampus Posted July 17, 2020 Report Share Posted July 17, 2020 Apart from the pin numbers the connector is not marked. But looking at the list you posted I'd put my money on connector FR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyJim Posted July 17, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, nampus said: awesome thanks - that looks just like connector [2] in my pic which I think is one of these? https://kojaycat.co.uk/epages/950000457.sf/sec4f695c9422/?ObjectPath=/Shops/950000457/Products/MOL-4W2R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyJim Posted July 17, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2020 4 minutes ago, nampus said: Apart from the pin numbers the connector is not marked. But looking at the list you posted I'd put my money on connector FR yes it does - any idea which is the other half of the connector then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nampus Posted July 17, 2020 Report Share Posted July 17, 2020 23 minutes ago, MonkeyJim said: awesome thanks - that looks just like connector [2] in my pic which I think is one of these? https://kojaycat.co.uk/epages/950000457.sf/sec4f695c9422/?ObjectPath=/Shops/950000457/Products/MOL-4W2R That's the one 👌🏻 Dimensions are the same as mine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobo Posted July 17, 2020 Report Share Posted July 17, 2020 1 hour ago, MonkeyJim said: yes it does - any idea which is the other half of the connector then? That kojaykat link is for a pair, male and female and all contacts. That’ll solve your problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyJim Posted July 17, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2020 Fantastic thanks for your help @nampus & @Lobo Got any recommendations for a crimping tool? Ideally one for Molex and superseal as I have both types to do. Can you get one that will do both? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobo Posted July 18, 2020 Report Share Posted July 18, 2020 Depending on the size of the Molex and Superseal contacts being used then a single tool could be used for crimping both if the sizes are the same or close to each other, just be careful it doesn't deform the contact.. But if they are significantly different sizes you may be better off buying a budget tool for each type..... depends on how often you''re going to be using them as well. Kojaycat have a selection of crimp tools for non insulated contacts here : https://kojaycat.co.uk/epages/950000457.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/950000457/Categories/Tools_CrimpingCutting/Crimping_Tools_NonInsulated The ratchet style ensure that you are crimping the contact "properly", the ratchet won't release until enough pressure is put on the contact to make the joint and won't allow you to put too much pressure on the crimp squashing it so it won't go in the housing. A bit more expensive that the cheaper "manual" style though but great for cack-handed people. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyJim Posted July 18, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2020 1 hour ago, sev said: molex connector for sure. The Molex stuff always has the chamfer on faces to align properly. if you need lend of a crimp tool just shout and I'll send you mine I'm sure I've got some spare molex pins as well so if you balls up or want to try out a few first before committing your loom to surgery. Thanks that's brilliant appreciate the offer - may well take you up on that, I'll pm you. In the meantime a helpful fellow owner has sent me some pics of the female end which helps confirm it's a molex and also which wire locates where (I guess not essential to have them in oem positions, as long as they line up properly on either side) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyJim Posted July 23, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2020 quick update on this. Ordered some Molex connectors via Kojaycat, along with a crimping tool they recommended. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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