rusty Posted July 2, 2020 Report Posted July 2, 2020 I’m looking for a cordless impact gun for using on the car. Getting the rear caliper carrier bolts out to change the discs I s going to be a pain as they’re awkward to access with a socket and bar. Using some top drawer man maths, I reckon it’ll cost at least £100 to get a garage to fit the pads and discs and I don’t really want to do that so if I put that £100 towards an impact gun I’m onto a winner (that’s if it actually shifts the bolts!) So, the question is, what impact gun should I get for under £200? Currently got my eye on one of these: https://www.halfords.com/tools/power-tools-and-accessories/power-tools/ryobi-18v-oneplus-impact-wrench-starter-kit-1x2.0ah-826047.html It looks like it’ll be up to the job of doing bits on the cars and I should be able to get it a bit cheaper than the price listed. Any other suggestions? Quote
HOGG Posted July 2, 2020 Report Posted July 2, 2020 29 minutes ago, rusty said: Getting the rear caliper carrier bolts out to change the discs I s going to be a pain as they’re awkward to access with a socket and bar. Surely if you can get a huge impact gun on the bolt, you can get a socket and breaker bar on the bolt. You need to spend more than £250 to get a decent impact gun.... Quote
rusty Posted July 2, 2020 Author Report Posted July 2, 2020 You can get a socket and bar on but getting any leverage on it going to be the problem. Quote
bikemike Posted July 2, 2020 Report Posted July 2, 2020 I admire your man-maths, but I've never failed yet to get caliper bolts off with hand tools. If access is tight, i find that a close fitting spanner clouted with a leather headed hammer gets even the most reluctant bolts undone. Quote
rusty Posted July 2, 2020 Author Report Posted July 2, 2020 10 minutes ago, bikemike said: I admire your man-maths, but I've never failed yet to get caliper bolts off with hand tools. If access is tight, i find that a close fitting spanner clouted with a leather headed hammer gets even the most reluctant bolts undone. Caliper bolts themselves were fine, they're just M8 bolts into the slider so come off with a 13mm spanner. The carrier bolts are tucked away nicely behind the rear shock and spring which makes it awkward to get a bar in to swing on. Just to add to the fun they're the annoying multi-spline bolt heads that VW/Audi/Skoda love to use! Quote
blow_away Posted July 2, 2020 Report Posted July 2, 2020 Push the budget and get something that works https://www.angliatoolcentre.co.uk/milwaukee-m18fhiwf12-502x-18v-brushless-impact-wrench-with-2x-5-0ah-li-ion-batteries-pid49672.html 2 Quote
Alex_H Posted July 2, 2020 Report Posted July 2, 2020 24 minutes ago, blow_away said: Push the budget and get something that works https://www.angliatoolcentre.co.uk/milwaukee-m18fhiwf12-502x-18v-brushless-impact-wrench-with-2x-5-0ah-li-ion-batteries-pid49672.html I was gonna write some bollocks about 240v guns and the dewalt 18v I've got, but its all bollocks because Al is right, that ^ there is some proper spec gunnage and will undo the rotation of the sun if it had a nut on it. 1 Quote
ricey3 Posted July 2, 2020 Report Posted July 2, 2020 The machine mart ones are good and cheap. And the corded ones are even cheaper. Unless your going to use it lots then the cheap ones are perfect. Quote
outkast Posted July 2, 2020 Report Posted July 2, 2020 Son uses a dewalt 18v one on trucks, loves it. https://www.screwfix.com/p/dewalt-dcf899hn-xj-18v-li-ion-xr-brushless-cordless-impact-wrench-bare/4660j This one I think, he has a heavy duty battery as well. Quote
Damnthistinleg Posted July 2, 2020 Report Posted July 2, 2020 @rusty If you already have a good Li-ion battery drill, it'll be a lot cheaper to buy a bare impact gun of the same make and use your existing battery and charger. 2 Quote
HOGG Posted July 2, 2020 Report Posted July 2, 2020 1 hour ago, ricey3 said: The machine mart ones are good and cheap. And the corded ones are even cheaper. Unless your going to use it lots then the cheap ones are perfect. The cheap ones struggle to undo a full set of wheel nuts Quote
Bram43 Posted July 2, 2020 Report Posted July 2, 2020 Go big. There is no such thing as being over gunned. Dead is dead. Blast those calliper bolts right off, as an example to the others (looking at you, over torqued axle nut). 1 Quote
coombehouse Posted July 2, 2020 Report Posted July 2, 2020 I bought a Milwaukee 12v fuel compact wrench & it is amazing. There a YouTube clip of a guy taking truck wheel nuts off with it. £220 https://www.alanwadkinstoolstore.co.uk/power-tools-c17/impact-wrenches-c72/milwaukee-m12fiwf12-622x-12v-cordless-1-2-impact-wrench-kit-2-batteries-charger-case-p47430/s51311?cid=GBP&gclid=CjwKCAjwi_b3BRAGEiwAemPNU4PzyyzmfJb_wyS2e_14ctxOsR2rMWhKeRbg_NOpeGEkBIU6w8tSTRoCgCAQAvD_BwE 2 Quote
peter187 Posted July 3, 2020 Report Posted July 3, 2020 1 hour ago, Johnno said: My 12 volt Milwaukee gear is amazing. I've had them doing stuff better suited to an 18 volt. My 18 volt rattle gun is the big bruiser.. it will undo anything, even 42 mm head size nuts done up with a 6 foot piece of water pipe on a 3/4 drive socket breaker bar. Easily. We were dismantling a crane at West End on Monday. The mobile wasn't big enough so we had to split the slew ring in the air. Nothing battery would look at it. Eventually we roped up an air line and used one of these bad boys. https://www.gettoolsdirect.com.au/ingersoll-rand-1-d-handle-impact-wrench-2850max.html?gclid=CjwKCAjwi_b3BRAGEiwAemPNUz7R4Gi7BC22bqtKFLWcx3C4cQ212j2tpXhrnyqlP9ixqI7c4b0eHhoCphcQAvD_BwE 2 Quote
rusty Posted July 3, 2020 Author Report Posted July 3, 2020 I didn’t realise the 12v Milwaukee stuff was that good. I’d briefly looked at the 18v stuff but it looked like quite a lump and was expensive. The 12v one looks spot-on. I remember buying one of the first Snap-On cordless impact guns about 16 years ago, it seemed good at the time but was comparatively shit looking at the new stuff. Saying that, we were all still impressed at my work when I bought a 1/2” drive air gun and it would loosen steering drop arm bolts on a Merc Actros and they were about 800nm. Looks like some of the cordless stuff will do that now! Quote
Thunderbolt Posted July 3, 2020 Report Posted July 3, 2020 I have a machine mart one. It is weak. I also have a DeWalt 18v, it handles w everything on the car or bikes. For serious shifting I use air. Quote
Mark/Foggy Posted July 3, 2020 Report Posted July 3, 2020 I've given up on batteries, they give up on you. Usually only last about 18 months and then if you need new batteries the fuckers have changed the design. Get a compressor Quote
MonkeyJim Posted July 3, 2020 Report Posted July 3, 2020 I think I would be looking at a mains powered one. Quote
426hemi Posted July 3, 2020 Report Posted July 3, 2020 7 hours ago, rusty said: I didn’t realise the 12v Milwaukee stuff was that good. I’d briefly looked at the 18v stuff but it looked like quite a lump and was expensive. The 12v one looks spot-on. I remember buying one of the first Snap-On cordless impact guns about 16 years ago, it seemed good at the time but was comparatively shit looking at the new stuff. Saying that, we were all still impressed at my work when I bought a 1/2” drive air gun and it would loosen steering drop arm bolts on a Merc Actros and they were about 800nm. Looks like some of the cordless stuff will do that now! My Milwaukee 18v impact gun is just over 1400nm and the new one is 1800nm. Quote
IforB Posted July 3, 2020 Report Posted July 3, 2020 1 hour ago, 426hemi said: My Milwaukee 18v impact gun is just over 1400nm and the new one is 1800nm. If that doesn't shift it, then either King Kong or Dave from Kwik Fit has done it up and the only option is a gas axe. 1 Quote
Elohesra Posted July 3, 2020 Report Posted July 3, 2020 Everyone has their own experiences, but I've been relatively unimpressed with Milwaukee and DeWalt stuff, and have gone wholesale over to Makita 18V. I've got quite a bit of it now and love it. I have a few batteries for convenience, but the first two 3Ah batteries that I bought are now 7 years old and still used daily. The trick is to recharge them as soon as you notice the tool starting to slow - don't let then run down any further than that or you will kill them. 2 Quote
TLRS Posted July 3, 2020 Report Posted July 3, 2020 3 hours ago, 426hemi said: My Milwaukee 18v impact gun is just over 1400nm and the new one is 1800nm. You spin me right round baby, like a record baby, right round round.. Quote
Herr V. Posted July 3, 2020 Report Posted July 3, 2020 Cheapo compressor with a 50 litre tank and a windy rattle gun FTMFW Quote
TLRS Posted July 3, 2020 Report Posted July 3, 2020 5 minutes ago, Tony Nitrous said: What the hell is that thing! Quote
TLRS Posted July 4, 2020 Report Posted July 4, 2020 2 hours ago, Tony Nitrous said: The later years of Pete Burns, who was quoted from singing “You spin me right round”. Oh the travesty Does it help if what i had in mind was done by Dope? The above might be too, but you know... Quote
wavey Posted July 4, 2020 Report Posted July 4, 2020 14 hours ago, sev said: @wavey what was the mother o' the lordy gun that you recommended? was it the milwaukee one above? If it can blast off a ducati SSA wheel nut then its manly enough https://www.kielder.co/collections/impact-wrenches/products/18v-li-ion-1-2-700nm-impact-wrench?variant=7323790213153 Quote
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