Guest bikertiger Posted April 25, 2009 Report Share Posted April 25, 2009 Dead battery problems Had an issue the other week. Charged via an optimate - been fine since. But used the bike all friday, start this morning (saturday) and it's as dead as a ....... I've bought a new Vatra Battery and will fit it tomorrow But seem's a bit strange - Anyway, how difficult is it to change the battery over on a ninja?? Any quick and easy tips? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattyzx6r Posted April 26, 2009 Report Share Posted April 26, 2009 if its anything like an 07 ninja, you'll have to remove the trim panels on the sides (couple of bolts + clips) to get at the 2 hex bolts that hold the front seat on , lift it out . then remove the rubber strap that holds the battery down . job jobbed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bikertiger Posted April 26, 2009 Report Share Posted April 26, 2009 if its anything like an 07 ninja, you'll have to remove the trim panels on the sides (couple of bolts + clips) to get at the 2 hex bolts that hold the front seat on , lift it out . then remove the rubber strap that holds the battery down . job jobbed. Yeah I removed the trim and the seat. But there's a bar right across the middle (top) of the battery of which the fuel tank is screwed to? Do I need to take the fuel tank off. Seem's like an overly big top just to replace the battery! Ass biscuits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lorenzo Posted April 26, 2009 Report Share Posted April 26, 2009 Hve you learnt nothing from Geepee? Hammer and a hacksaw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Pigdog Posted April 26, 2009 Report Share Posted April 26, 2009 Tank off i'm afraid--or at least prop it up!make sure when fitting it all back together that the positive terminal cant short out on anything,makes sense to fit optimate leads too at this point.Also double check that when you refit the tank you havent kinked the tank breather hose by blowing up it--lots of home mechanics just put the tank on,kink the hose then when it rains your tank will get water in it and eventually have running problems! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bikertiger Posted April 26, 2009 Report Share Posted April 26, 2009 So I left the original battery in as I couldn't find a way of getting the old one out.... I left it plugged in to the optimate all day Later today I go out (started fine). Come back and it's dead again Tried to jump start it with a car battery.......I figure this may not have been a clever move as the bike when you turn the key doesn't do anything???? No power So - Have I killed it, by trying to jump start it with a car battery?? Is it just down to the battery loosing all it's juice so quickly, or something else?? Will it be expensive to fix do we think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrsbiketiger Posted April 26, 2009 Report Share Posted April 26, 2009 So I left the original battery in as I couldn't find a way of getting the old one out.... I left it plugged in to the optimate all day Later today I go out (started fine). Come back and it's dead again Tried to jump start it with a car battery.......I figure this may not have been a clever move as the bike when you turn the key doesn't do anything???? No power So - Have I killed it, by trying to jump start it with a car battery?? Is it just down to the battery loosing all it's juice so quickly, or something else?? Will it be expensive to fix do we think Get a car! Why didnt u call the RAC or AA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bikertiger Posted April 26, 2009 Report Share Posted April 26, 2009 Get a car! Why didnt u call the RAC or AA? Your not helpful you know! Car's have problems too Just hopefully i've not damaged anything by trying to jump start it. There's a kawasaki dealership near by so i'll take it down on Friday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrsbiketiger Posted April 26, 2009 Report Share Posted April 26, 2009 Car's have problems too Not as many as you seem to have with your bikes! You need to stop fiddling with them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wavydavy Posted April 26, 2009 Report Share Posted April 26, 2009 So - Have I killed it, by trying to jump start it with a car battery?? Sounds like it was already borked if it lost allcharge that quickly. But yes, jumping it off a car battery *can* (but not necessarily *will*) warp the plates in the cells, knackering the battery. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bikertiger Posted April 26, 2009 Report Share Posted April 26, 2009 Sounds like it was already borked if it lost allcharge that quickly. But yes, jumping it off a car battery *can* (but not necessarily *will*) warp the plates in the cells, knackering the battery. Dave I don't mind if i've killed the battery as i've a replacement cleverly not on the bike Just making sure i've not damaged anything else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wavydavy Posted April 26, 2009 Report Share Posted April 26, 2009 I don't mind if i've killed the battery as i've a replacement cleverly not on the bike Just making sure i've not damaged anything else? Given the way the thread has gone, I'd pay a man to swap them over *and* check the charging system at the same time, just to be sure... Gotta be worth the extra tenner for someone who knows what they're doing with a multimeter to have a quick poke about, even if it's just to set your mind at rest. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bikertiger Posted April 26, 2009 Report Share Posted April 26, 2009 Given the way the thread has gone, I'd pay a man to swap them over *and* check the charging system at the same time, just to be sure... Gotta be worth the extra tenner for someone who knows what they're doing with a multimeter to have a quick poke about, even if it's just to set your mind at rest. Dave Don't listen the the misses. I'm a genius when it comes to fixing bikes But yeah for piece of mind Be ready for Wales Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bikertiger Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 Think i'll give changing the battery myself Any chance of a quick run through on how I get to it?? Side panels and seat unit off - I'm ok with that The metal bar that crosses the battery that the fuel tank is linked to, does that come off first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abos Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 Think i'll give changing the battery myself Any chance of a quick run through on how I get to it?? Side panels and seat unit off - I'm ok with that The metal bar that crosses the battery that the fuel tank is linked to, does that come off first I had the same problem with my 6 you need to remove the side panels the seat and the two bolts that go through the frame ( careful with these as the thread suffers with time) take out the screw by the headstock at the front of the tank then un bolt the cross bar unit and lift of the tank. You should now get At the battery when you refit leave the optimate (if you have one) flying leads attached to the battery and tuckup under the seat so you can trickle charge later. Refit is reverse of strip . Careful you don't trap the throttle cables though. Don't try and jump or boost as these small batteries are easeily damaged. As an aside after my battery packed up my FI light came on due to faulty exhaust valve not connected with the battery fault but very common. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Pigdog Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 Unless theres a friend there to help(Mrs.bikertiger?)and hold the tank up as you undo the positive terminal(all a bit cramped and very fiddly),i would recommend removing the tank.Two large hex sockets about where your kness are,hex socket jest behind headstock,two 10mm bolts facing upwards that secure the bar and loom clamp,release the fuel pump connector(left hand side quite tucked away-slowly pull the tank to find it)small bodywork allen keys that secure the tail unit to the horizontal bar.Also a fuel cutout switch on the back of the bar on the right hand side-just unclip and pull the connector out,lasstly remove the fuel 'quick' release by squeezing the red bits together and pushing(easier saiad than done)just tug the tank breather pipe out with the tank and re-route it when refitting.good luck.btw they all seize their exhaust butterfly valve eventually and the valve is a sealed unit-when that does happen you gotta either buy a new silencer or get an akrapovic bar for the servo just to add-this process removes the bar with the tank attached! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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