Guest bikertiger Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 I've bought some twin exhausts for the 10 But in my enthusiasm, I bought slip ons from a race bike Whilst the 10 is a bolt on design Thus If I take the riveted bit off. Can someone, or point me in the right direction to have a replacement bolt on design made up One thing.....oval exhausts design? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul8899 Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 do you mean something like this , its a 4 bolt suzuki yosh can to suit a 60mm link pipe ( but yours would be the other way round ) or this ? ( a new end cap from a 3 bolt fireblade akra to suit a 60mm link pipe ) , could put tapped holes in instead of the link pipe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bikertiger Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 yeah I 'think' this sort of thing would do - Not sure the other one;s would work? Keep the exhausts as they are. Bolt on the above, and 'slip in' the 'slip ons'...sounds quite racy that! Of course getting the perfect size, so they don't 'blow' and making em stay put is the next challenge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul8899 Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 If you got the bit that slips in made about half a mm smaller than the inlet you should be able to use a bit of blue splodge to hole them in and the exhaust bracket will hold them in place. Or you could make them the same size and tap them in with a mallett , the pipe will flex to suit the inlet. The only downside is that they wouldn't be easy to get out without damaging the silencer , if you used the blue gasket you could put them together and line them up easily if you pressed them in , once they are in thats the position you are stuck with yeah I 'think' this sort of thing would do - Not sure the other one;s would work? Keep the exhausts as they are. Bolt on the above, and 'slip in' the 'slip ons'...sounds quite racy that! Of course getting the perfect size, so they don't 'blow' and making em stay put is the next challenge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bikertiger Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 If you got the bit that slips in made about half a mm smaller than the inlet you should be able to use a bit of blue splodge to hole them in and the exhaust bracket will hold them in place. Or you could make them the same size and tap them in with a mallett , the pipe will flex to suit the inlet. The only downside is that they wouldn't be easy to get out without damaging the silencer , if you used the blue gasket you could put them together and line them up easily if you pressed them in , once they are in thats the position you are stuck with See that bit wouldn't matter. As in theory say I come to sell the bike....unlikely. I can sell the cans separately knowing they would fit another zx10r easily? Thus the question. Where do I get one of the above? I got a reply from PJ all ready. Working Sunday evening. Hardcore! I think I may send the slip on bit to them and ask em to work their magic? Edit....oh I get what you are saying. Have the slip on bit go straight into the std bolt on design on the bike....makes sense. But yeah also throws up the probably of taking the cans off come MOT time etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul8899 Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 thats how I would make them , have a bolt on bit that goes on the bike with a pipe coming out that goes into the silencer , at least that way when you come to fit them to the bike you can line up the can to fit the hangers. Would be a bit embarrasing if you push fitted the adapters in the wrong place and your oval cans were a bit wonky Just out of interest , how much were you quoted and what material ? Just being nosey cos I made the ones in the pics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bezzer Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 Banditmania sell 4 bolt and 3 bolt can adaptors for SVs and Bandits that would probably fit. Banditmania Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lorenzo Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 The banditmania ones go the wrong way round: they're for bolt on cans onto a smooth pipe, BT wants something to take slip on cans onto a bolt on pipe. I'm sure an adaptor could be made but the key things are to get the adaptor as short as possible so that the cans themselves don't stick out too far, and secondly to make sure the angle of the pipe stub, the bit that the cans will slip on to, is correct in relation to the angle of the bolt on plate part: I know my 3 bolt can won't go on the wrong way round as the bolt on part is at about 20deg to the front of the can. It might not be too bad an idea to take the original cans off and sent them along to the makers of these plates so they no the exact angle etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 If you get stuck, I could do 'em at work (in dinner/after) Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bikertiger Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 Alas - Just so we know the current thinking This is one of the exhausts Slip on piece etc And this....(shame it's not a photo of the other side, but you get the idea....) is how it should be And this is the 'angle' of the cans. Slight tilt.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul8899 Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 aaaah , can see it now . correct me if im wrong but I think that micron cans are held on to the link pipe by a jubilee clip ( hence the slots on the front pipe ) and the tilt is just the can turned slightly off vertical , is the inlet end on the can about 2in diameter ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bikertiger Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 aaaah , can see it now . correct me if im wrong but I think that micron cans are held on to the link pipe by a jubilee clip ( hence the slots on the front pipe ) and the tilt is just the can turned slightly off vertical , is the inlet end on the can about 2in diameter ? yes roughly.... I'm just going to unrivet the 'slip on' bit and ask for a bolt on bit??? Seem's easy enough??.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bikertiger Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 back to square one The reply from PJ Engineering "Bit of bad news, im affraid we dont have that size tube in to make these and replace the ends for you. they are smaller and a differnt shape also, very sorry about that.Ive even tried some of the guys i know who worked at micron before it closed but they have nothing for it either. Ill get them sent back to you" Just a remainder - the below is the sort of thing I need Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lorenzo Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 Have you thought about getting a 2nd hand link pipe (assuming it's got a seperate link pipe that goes from the cat perhaps, under your seat then into the cans) then simply having the flanges cut off and machined to the right size for the inlet to the new cans? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fran9r Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 Try a stainless car specialist -those that make pipes to suit the application infront of them, rather than selling stuff. I'd be asking them to make a link pipe to suit the cans, rather than have the cans modified. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will#224 Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 Can you not just chop the bolt on section of the link pipe and get some pipe to create a jointing sleeve? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bikertiger Posted March 5, 2010 Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 Can you not just chop the bolt on section of the link pipe and get some pipe to create a jointing sleeve? Problem is then, then I come to re-fit the originals come MOT time etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will#224 Posted March 5, 2010 Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 If you contact MHP Mark Hill, he'll sort ya an adapter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lorenzo Posted March 5, 2010 Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 Problem is then, then I come to re-fit the originals come MOT time etc Buy a 2nd hand link pipe. I bet that a crashed zx10 will have mullered downpipes and a pritine linke bit, and I'd also bet that the bike's got a cat that can be bolted out, and hence the whole system will split into nice little chunks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul8899 Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 Or could always get this done to them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bikertiger Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 Or could always get this done to them Yeah that could work??? hmmmm how did you get the measurements? By the way - They look mega. May I say to any forum member - And hopefully Paul8899 won't mind. He's been a top guy get these exhausts sorted, even using my rubbish drawings to get these If you need anything similar I strongly recommend you send him a PM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul8899 Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 I found these highly technical drawings on the net and went from there nice drawing of your flange ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoona6 Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 Yeah that could work??? hmmmm how did you get the measurements? By the way - They look mega. May I say to any forum member - And hopefully Paul8899 won't mind. He's been a top guy get these exhausts sorted, even using my rubbish drawings to get these If you need anything similar I strongly recommend you send him a PM Damn that's some lovely work. Ere mister make me something shiny! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lorenzo Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 I found these highly technical drawings on the net and went from there nice drawing of your flange ! Wow, I bet those measurements are accurate, eh BT... Paul, I'm loving the standard of your work, what did you do them on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bikertiger Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 Wow, I bet those measurements are accurate, eh BT... Paul, I'm loving the standard of your work, what did you do them on? says 'flange' ha ha ha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul8899 Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 I made them on an old 3 axis hurco hawk and I used a program called onecnc to draw/design them , Im in the process of designing another set of 5pw yokes for my 5jj R1 ( this time Im going to get the top one gutted out, and the bottom one will be angled and have strenghtening ribs underneath ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLMart Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 Could try AA16, he does all sorts of can components such as ends etc. Very helpfull when I used him and good prices if you want to do it yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buster Posted April 1, 2010 Report Share Posted April 1, 2010 says 'flange' ha ha ha Am I the only one reading gasket as gusset? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bikertiger Posted July 29, 2010 Report Share Posted July 29, 2010 Am I the only one reading gasket as gusset? ha ha Gusset. And flange Ok - So I finally got round to buying some exhaust straps Come as a flat piece of metal with the joint at the end So, any tips on bending the straps around the can with a nice close fit? Then, I\'ll need something to extend from the joint upwards. As where the bolt would go is too short and needs maybe an extra inch or so to reach the bike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul8899 Posted July 29, 2010 Report Share Posted July 29, 2010 do you still have those ally bands ? you could use those to make an extension piece from the bike to the strap, Have you tried them on yet ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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