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I have a new track fairing I want to paint.

I cannot justify the money that some companies are asking

so.I realise it’s all in the prep but any tips from people who’ve done it??

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11 minutes ago, srad34 said:

Save up and get a mister to do it properly

 

+1 - by the time you've bought enough decent rattle cans and all the rest of the stuff you need, it's usually enough for a basic job from someone who has access to a booth. Even a simple all-one-colour job will look and last better than a rattle can job.

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You can get a decent single colour job done on new track fairings for about 200 quid. To get a half decent result with cans will take fucking ages, loads of abrasives, primer, top coat, lacquer and it'll still look like a rattle can job. 

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Buy a 2nd hand compressor and do it properly. It'll cost you £100 in cans and look shit or £100 with a pukka spray gun and you get a compressor at the end of it.

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Also, no matter how you do it, don't do it at this time of year, it's too cold and too damp, you'll get millions of runs with it.

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Single colour isn;t usually too expensive at a propper paint place. Especially if you're not in a rush.

My black track fairing is looking a bit used, so when my new shed is here it'll be pushed into paintbooth duties before getting too full of crap. Make sure there's heat, sand stuff down well, use decent hi-build primer, sand again, then lots of light coats. Usually looks ok.

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If it's for a track bike go for the cheapest rattlecans your local independent autoparts store have on the shelf and get stuck in. It'll look fine in the trackday photog's pics even if up close it looks like it's been blown on with a straw.

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2 large £5.99 cans of primer, A small £4.99 can each of white, red and yellow, 2 large £7.99 cans of green and 2 £3 rolls of black vinyl go faster stripes. Job jobbed.

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3 minutes ago, ZXRRDave said:

If it's for a track bike go for the cheapest rattlecans your local independent autoparts store have on the shelf and get stuck in. It'll look fine in the trackday photog's pics even if up close it looks like it's been blown on with a straw.

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2 large £5.99 cans of primer, A small £4.99 can each of white, red and yellow, 2 large £7.99 cans of green and 2 £3 rolls of black vinyl go faster stripes. Job jobbed.

While for a lot of bikes I'd agree, I think a high spec TZ250 deserves better..............

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2 minutes ago, Gobert said:

While for a lot of bikes I'd agree, I think a high spec TZ250 deserves better..............

I'd have thought so too initially, but Looking at half the bikes on the bemsee blue haze Gp grid I'd say it's optional 🤣

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1 minute ago, Gobert said:

@ZXRRDave btw not having a go at your bike or painting skills............just think something special should look special as well.

No worries, The bike was built to be something that I wouldn't lose sleep over throwing at a gravel trap (and I did, so goes to show I was thinking along the right lines) so definitely a different intention than @bogman's beautiful TZ. 

My mate with the collection of TZ's always has them very nicely presented (the 92' V twin is almost finished but still in its irish roadracing fairings so looks like it's been at the bottom of a peat bog, but the 88 reverse cylinder is spectacular and he's only just started working on the 86 parallel twin).

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On 1/14/2021 at 4:41 PM, bogman said:

I have a new track fairing I want to paint

I cannot justify the money that some companies are asking

so.I realise it’s all in the prep but any tips from people who’ve done it??

Don't worry about wrapping or painting it, just clear coat it, looks better and it's much cheaper*
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15 hours ago, ZXRRDave said:

If it's for a track bike go for the cheapest rattlecans your local independent autoparts store have on the shelf and get stuck in. It'll look fine in the trackday photog's pics even if up close it looks like it's been blown on with a straw.

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2 large £5.99 cans of primer, A small £4.99 can each of white, red and yellow, 2 large £7.99 cans of green and 2 £3 rolls of black vinyl go faster stripes. Job jobbed.

You've spent £30 on a paint job there that looks a bit iffy close up, which is fair enough for cheap & cheerful. Admittedly you need a compressor (mine was about £75 off ebay) and a gun (£18, ebay again), but I spent about £60 on paint, and did my Bros, which doesn't look iffy close up and has left me with a load of extra paint for if I need to touch any other bits up later, or even paint another bike entirely, providing I want a fleet of rothmans reps. I realise that the cost of it's double, but it's £30 more on materials which isn't a lot relative to the cost of a bike, any bike, plus you end up with a compressor and a spray gun for future squirtings. A single colour paint job in a new shade of paint would probably cost about £17 after that as I still have a load of thinner, lacquer etc left over.

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Dayo Paint on FACEBOOK, Josh Day Ducati trioptions Cup champion in real life does some great work.

He did the fairings for my mates SP1 race bike which were 2nd hand and needed a lot of prep.

£250 the full set, single colour, if memory serves.....its not worth getting your hands dirty!

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1 hour ago, ZXRRDave said:

Was that the second or third attempt? :eusa_whistle:🤣

14th, actually.

Seriously though, if I'd dropped & dented the tank with rattle cans, at that point it'd have been cheaper to do a spray job on it than rattle cans. I suppose it depends on how much onus you put on the finish and how often you think you'll be painting. For me though, it has to be a spray job every time, it's almost the same cost, it looks loads better, you get the ability to do it again for free more or less (ignoring time spent, obviously) if you're not happy with it.

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1 hour ago, lorenzo said:

14th, actually.

Seriously though, if I'd dropped & dented the tank with rattle cans, at that point it'd have been cheaper to do a spray job on it than rattle cans. I suppose it depends on how much onus you put on the finish and how often you think you'll be painting. For me though, it has to be a spray job every time, it's almost the same cost, it looks loads better, you get the ability to do it again for free more or less (ignoring time spent, obviously) if you're not happy with it.

I'm still upset you didn't appreciate the supreme artwork that I did on that tailpiece...🤪

 

I've rattle canned bikes before, but only those that have been used for despatching or ldd, ie not worth the expense. 

Josh Day sounds like damn good value.

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On 1/16/2021 at 11:53 AM, grinder said:

Dayo Paint on FACEBOOK, Josh Day Ducati trioptions Cup champion in real life does some great work.

He did the fairings for my mates SP1 race bike which were 2nd hand and needed a lot of prep.

£250 the full set, single colour, if memory serves.....its not worth getting your hands dirty!

Local lad to me. Does good work. 

18 hours ago, grinder said:

He does......i dont think it was 'mates rates' but there may have been an element of that in it.

That's pretty much what he charges I think 

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