zimm Posted September 27, 2008 Report Posted September 27, 2008 as topic really, they pop up on ebay after being heftily marked up from time to time, and am seriously thinking about getting one for my zxr400 racebike... meant to be fully programmable for rev limit/advance curve and i like the idea of plugging a laptop into my bike.. because im a bit of a geek. so has anyone heard of them ? got one ? used one ? had one blow up ? fail ? http://www.ignitech.cz/english/aindex.htm
thefatman Posted September 27, 2008 Report Posted September 27, 2008 I think Muschi has got one of his ducati, best ask him http://pbmagforum.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=554
Flerbizky Posted September 27, 2008 Report Posted September 27, 2008 as topic really, they pop up on ebay after being heftily marked up from time to time, and am seriously thinking about getting one for my zxr400 racebike... meant to be fully programmable for rev limit/advance curve and i like the idea of plugging a laptop into my bike.. because im a bit of a geek. so has anyone heard of them ? got one ? used one ? had one blow up ? fail ? http://www.ignitech.cz/english/aindex.htm Haven't heard of the before, but they seem pretty loaded for the price. Might look into one for Project 4/6.. Thanks for the link !..
Muschi Posted September 27, 2008 Report Posted September 27, 2008 i have one and they are cool, the serial connection was my personal entrance into the space age. you got to tell them, what kind of bike you have, because they are special made, it won't take them too long though. you got to specify, what kind of features you want to run, be it a throttle position sensor or exhaust servo i.e., the module has ports for a tachometer, shift lift and blocking switch ( sidestand ) also. the advance curve is fully adjustable, my bike is running quite good so far ( in the living room ), i think it is a steal compared to the silent hektik stuff and would recommend it.
Flerbizky Posted September 28, 2008 Report Posted September 28, 2008 i have one and they are cool, the serial connection was my personal entrance into the space age. you got to tell them, what kind of bike you have, because they are special made, it won't take them too long though. you got to specify, what kind of features you want to run, be it a throttle position sensor or exhaust servo i.e., the module has ports for a tachometer, shift lift and blocking switch ( sidestand ) also. Muschi, which version have you been using - I'm considering the Sparker Racing 3 ( http://www.ignitech.cz/english/rac/rac.htm ) as it seems like a perfect option for getting a programmable ignition system. (And for far less dough that any of the known brands) - But from what I can see, all you need to specify is what bike (well, engine might be a better word) you're going to put it on, - and that the Racing 3 comes with all options as standard.. Maybe I should just send them an email.. Cheers, /Steff
Muschi Posted September 28, 2008 Report Posted September 28, 2008 i use the sparker TCI P4 ignition module with my DS 1000 engine. go ahead and send them an e-mail, they don't take long to answer and are pretty good guys.
zimm Posted September 28, 2008 Author Report Posted September 28, 2008 thanks for the reply's ! have ordered some for my bikes and a couple for some mates.. tcip4 the sparker racing 3 unit is just multi channel, and overkill for zxr's and nc30's which iim putting them on.
Flerbizky Posted September 28, 2008 Report Posted September 28, 2008 thanks for the reply's ! have ordered some for my bikes and a couple for some mates.. tcip4 the sparker racing 3 unit is just multi channel, and overkill for zxr's and nc30's which iim putting them on. Overkill ?... There is no such thing as overkill when it comes to bikes ;-)
zimm Posted September 28, 2008 Author Report Posted September 28, 2008 agreed, but there's no point paying for inputs i'll have nothing to connect to
Flerbizky Posted September 28, 2008 Report Posted September 28, 2008 agreed, but there's no point paying for inputs i'll have nothing to connect to That's called Future Proofing ;-) Who knows when your ZXR 400 will need the addition of an N2O bottle
zimm Posted September 28, 2008 Author Report Posted September 28, 2008 point, but i dont think it'd be allowed in f400 then ..
zimm Posted October 16, 2008 Author Report Posted October 16, 2008 quick update, having told ignitech what bikes i wanted the units for, they got back to me with their recommendations the next day, i paid them and they turned up a week later... good stuff each unit came with a nicely made loom adapter so its an easy plg n play they did completely forget to send me any base settings for my zxr though, so after some head scratching, a bit of guesswork and some almighty backfires and popping noises I got the pickup settings right, and loaded up a close approximation of the advance curve from the old F3 kitted SP boxes, including 15,200rpm limiter (up from 14,500) although in all fairness, they did email me 2 zxr *.ign files the next day and apologised. They now also have the F3 and SP data Went out for a quick run and backed off the advance a touch at the topend to eliminate a weirdy flatspot and some more tweaking to smooth out the off idle response, and for now im impressed by what the tcip4 units deliver for the money. Especially considering that a standard ignition box for a zxr is currently on ebay for more than the ignitech units cost me. And real SP stuff is properly £££ unobtainium, let alone F3 kit, and even then its bigger, heavier, non-programmable and requires a dedicated loom and rotor. some dyno runs and more accurate testing with a strobe will have to be done to get things spot on next up is to re-wire the loom so the tacho is fed directly from the ignitech box instead of the 1&4 coil feed, the ignitech tacho feed is adjustable so i can stop the tacho lying about rpm (will read 17k on the clock @ 15k) all made nice and easy as the box can be programmed "live" with the engine running and displays true RPM as well as current (as in NOW, not electrical) advance being used on the screen then, fabricate a mount of some sort for a TPS and get that mapped in the hope of extracting some kind of midrange response from the little 400cc screamer my only regret is that i want a 4 channel unit now, so i can fit zx6r plug-coils and ditch the wasted spark system ..
Muschi Posted October 16, 2008 Report Posted October 16, 2008 that is good news. the unit is pretty cheap, compared to the silent hektik stuff, which is not free adjustable but only offers 16 different advance curves, not to mention the stock stuff, which is pretty expensive for my bike too, and not adjustable at all.
ant802 Posted January 18, 2009 Report Posted January 18, 2009 I have some Ignitech units on my race bikes, i have one on my zxr400sp, a brilliant piece of kit. I've also taken delivery of their top spec unit for my zx6rr race bike, replacing the kit kawasaki cdi on there, i don't have the $700 lead and box to access the kit kawasaki cdi so got an ignitech unit instead. i think the ignitech unit does even more than the kit kawasaki cdi! highly recommended
2moto Posted January 18, 2009 Report Posted January 18, 2009 I am about to plonk one onto a power valve motor as it does ignition and servo control. From what I've read there good and reliable, and of course fully programmable. It combines the servo controller and CDI into one box. It should make engine tuning far more flexible.
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